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gputhige
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« on: October 14, 2011, 10:42:10 AM »

Hi,
I downloaded the trial version of Video Enhancer few days back. On download, I tried to enhance a video in .avi format - which I was able to do so. I then tried with the .mpeg format and the application did not accept the same (as I assume there were missing codecs)..

So, I downloaded virtual dub, virtual codec pack, Klite mega codec pack - 64bit and installed these on the system. Now....

Video enhancer does not open even .avi files. Whats more, KM Player, which was playing all the formats earlier, does not play even the .avi files with an
error :MPPlayer.dll missing.

Downloaded, Standard 32 bit KL Codec pack and installed after uninstalling 64bit. Downloaded and installed KM Player1401....

Completely confused on this. Have spent the whole day installing/uninstalling all packages, codecs etc...etc..

Can some one help??

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GPuthige
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2011, 01:01:01 PM »

First, Video Enhancer and most of other video apps are 32-bit, they can only see and use 32-bit codecs. You don't need 64-bit codecs at all unless you have some very important 64-bit application that requires them.

I'd recommend uninstalling all the codecs and packs you had and then following this tutorial:
http://www.infognition.com/tutorials/video_codecs/
On a clean machine it leads to a set up which works with most video files.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2011, 06:18:34 PM »

Hi
thanks for the quick revert on this. Appreciate much. Well, frankly, I am totally new to these codecs (infact, my mind goes for a toss when I read codecs, splitters....).  I was following the tutorial you referred and the link to "mega codec pack" there took me to the page where I found 64 bit codec. Since I currently work on a 64bit platform, I religiously downloaded the same.

Now I am bit smarter.

Secondly, the tutorial refers to some un-checking and checking options on the setup screens. However, when I download the standard option and go for install, I do not see these check boxes in there Huh?
      eg: In MP4 Splitter: Gabest Splitter is not available there. instead I have LAV
            same with Ogg splitter and MPEG Splitter.

I am sorry for my ignorance, but all these codecs do go over my head. I am 3DS Max designer wanting to use VE for enhancing my Archviz animation.

Would appreciate if you can let me know which codec option I should be downloading.

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Gputhige 
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2011, 12:02:52 PM »

Yes, unfortunately "progress" in video technologies has made this topic hard for unexperienced users. We can use following metaphor: the same text can be written in different languages and published in different forms - hardcase book, a journal, a scroll, a web page. Different video compression methods are like different languages: they express roughly the same content using different alphabets and words. Codecs are software components implementing those compression methods, so different codecs allow you to "read" in different "languages". But just as a text can be stored in a book, a newspaper or a file, video data can be stored in different containers (like AVI, MP4, MKV etc). Just as books can store text in different languages, AVI files can contain video made with different codecs. It's not enough just to know a language to read a text. To read text in a book you need to know how to handle a book (where to open it, how to turn pages). To read a text from a web page you need to know how to open that web page and how to scroll it. Similarly, to play video from AVI file you need not only a codec (to understand its "language") but also a component that knows hot to open and read AVI files. Such a component is called "splitter" (because it usually splits video and audio streams of data contained in one file). Another name for a splitter is "demuxer".

Windows already includes a splitter for AVI files. But some codec packs install their own splitters and some of them do not work correctly.

Here's a similar fresh topic:
http://forum.infognition.com/index.php/topic,787.0.html
You might have the same problem, and it's getting cured by disabling Haali media splitter from working with AVI files.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 09:55:55 AM »

Really appreciate the detailed explanation and simplifying the whole process very neatly. Thanks for the same and the link. I had also read through the other links/sticky written by you in other pages and found these to be very informative. And I feel more informed now. When one reads more about it, it all starts making sense but most of the times, we are under pressure to 'just get over with it' due to our deadlines. That's when it all goes above board.

BTW, glad to inform that after this exercise, VE has successfully converted a low-res (test) file to a higher res without any problems.

Now need to check on my original file.

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GPuthige
 
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